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Topic: DDS unable to make determination  (Read 1605 times)
inxs117
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« on: December 14, 2011, 11:04:11 AM »
Hello all,

Thank you for everything that you are doing. This site is great help.

My case is at the reconsideration stage. Called the SSA customer service and was told that case was returned to the local office with annotation "unable to make determination". Does anyone know what does that mean specifically?

Denial, approval, or them being just confused as I am  Smiley

Thank you. Keep up the good work. Power to the People!
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 11:11:22 AM »
My guess is that it means just that they need more info. 

The next step might be to send you to a Medical and/or Mental CE...no worrie big grin
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Name: Jane
Location: Illinois
Age at Application: 59
Disability: Spinal Cord Injury, Fractured C4, Left-side partial paralysis, severe spasticity
Date Applied: ... 7/21/11>Re-Opened 2009 application
First Approval/Denial Date: APPROVED 11/3/11 ... BACKPAY from 11/08
Additional Info: Rec'd partial BackPay 1/3/12...Balance of 36 months rec'd 2/13/12
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 11:16:03 AM »
Thanks for your reply JTB Jane.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 08:30:12 PM »
inxs,

Welcome to the site.  I agree with Jane, it sounds like there was not enough "development" of your file for a decision to be made.  You will likely hear soon about different forms you need to complete or an exam you must attend.

Marci
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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 01:44:59 AM »
Welcome to the site inxs,
You got good insight already....just wanted to welcome you!
Look forward to hearing more about your case.
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Name: >;<
Location: CA
Age at Application: 37
Disability: Cervical & Lumbar DDD, Spinal Stenosis, Radiculopathy, Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety Disorder, Chronic PTSD
Date Applied: October 8, 2010
First Approval/Denial Date: Approved verbally March 15th, 2011. Approval letter dated April 5, 2011
Additional Info: 2 weeks in QR, Received backpay April 4th, 2011
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 05:08:54 AM »
Hi inxs:

And Welcome. I did a little exploring about the “unable to make decision” notation and found that it refers to a “No determination” claim, which means the DDS has closed the claim in their office and do not expect to get it back. There are several reasons for being coded as “no determination”: DDS has reviewed the evidence and finds the original decision has not changed; DDS determines a technical decision is required from the local SSA office; the local office recalls the claim for technical reasons….

It is probably important you call your local office and find out why your claim has been coded “no determination”.  A “no determination” claim can be reactivated, and the sooner you know the reasons behind it, the sooner you can get it reactivated if possible.

Good luck, and please let us know what you learn.

Pati
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Name: Pati
Location: East Tennessee
Age at Application: 53
Disability: Small Fiber & Autonomic Neuropathy; Sjogren's Syndrome; DJD
Date Applied: 02/19/2009
First Approval/Denial Date: Approved 10/26/2009
Date Award Letter Received: 11/17/2009
Date Back Pay Received: 10/25/2009
Additional Info: Assigned to DQB on 10/5/09. Approved.
inxs117
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 08:32:30 AM »
Thank you all so much for your comments. I did call the local office to inquire and a rep was curious as to how I found out about the code. I said that it was provided to me by their 1800. She kind of chuckled. I guess that's a  no no or something. What's up with secrecy Smiley Feels like I need a TS clearance to find out about my case.....

Anyhu, I said that I was concerned that the case was denied and she said that it remains pending.
I am debating whether to go ahead with retaining an attorney as my tolerance for the whole process is right about 0.
I have the retainer filled out just need to  mail it in........
 Comments, suggestions always appreciated.

Thanks....
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2011, 09:38:45 PM »
Pati,

Thank you for taking the time to research that.  I learned something new once again.

inxs, it sounds to me like you need to push a bit more as there has to be a reason behind the code.  Once you find out, it will make the decision of hiring an attorney a lot more clear.

Marci
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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 10:58:46 AM »
Hope all is well. just to let you guys know got a request from disability services to turn in the work history (15 yrs). and for medical records from my doctors. also decided to get an attorney just in case. don't have much strength to do things on my own anymore. hope they will make a decision in my favor......
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 11:06:10 AM »
Thanx for the update, inxs, I'm glad you've hired an attorney to help you through this complicated process and I wish you all kinds o'Luck going forward group hug

I hope you continue to keep us updated...
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Name: Jane
Location: Illinois
Age at Application: 59
Disability: Spinal Cord Injury, Fractured C4, Left-side partial paralysis, severe spasticity
Date Applied: ... 7/21/11>Re-Opened 2009 application
First Approval/Denial Date: APPROVED 11/3/11 ... BACKPAY from 11/08
Additional Info: Rec'd partial BackPay 1/3/12...Balance of 36 months rec'd 2/13/12
inxs117
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2012, 03:02:24 PM »
Hello all. Had a psych eval last week.
Appointment lasted about 2 hours. I guess he went over the appointment time by 15-20 min. Does that mean anything?
He said I gave him a lot of info. Feedback is appreciated.
Thank you guys.
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2012, 09:05:13 PM »
It is good news to hear he was thorough and felt that he had what he needed to give a full report.  That said, it is impossible to know what he thought until the report is submitted.  I will be keeping my fingers crossed.

Marci
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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2012, 01:00:30 AM »
Glad you got through that long visit! It is positive that the doc spent so much time to thoroughly examine you...it might help to make notes of anything you can remember, just in case you need it for reference later.
Please keep us posted!!
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Name: >;<
Location: CA
Age at Application: 37
Disability: Cervical & Lumbar DDD, Spinal Stenosis, Radiculopathy, Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety Disorder, Chronic PTSD
Date Applied: October 8, 2010
First Approval/Denial Date: Approved verbally March 15th, 2011. Approval letter dated April 5, 2011
Additional Info: 2 weeks in QR, Received backpay April 4th, 2011
inxs117
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 06:10:48 PM »
Hello all,

Hope you guys are doing well. Quick question. Is it a normal procedure for ssa wanting to talk to spouse about my health condition? Does that mean anything in terms of them finally making a decision? Any feedback is appreciated. Tx.
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2012, 08:34:21 PM »
It is quite common for social security to either speak with or have a third party complete a form about you and your health. 

I am not sure your diagnosis but this seems to happen more often in mental health conditions and seizure disorders.

Here is the form they use:  http://www.ssd-forms.com/SSDFacts/SSA-3380-BK.pdf .  It is likely a lot of the questions your spouse was asked are on this form. 

You can read more about it here under letter D :  https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0422511011

The good news is that they are working your case and hopefully getting close to submitting it to medical for a decision.



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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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