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Topic: just got denied for disability  (Read 753 times)
gabefromoc
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« on: February 04, 2012, 08:28:46 PM »
hi. I have schizophrenia. I just got denied for my disability claim. They said they did not find me disabled at any date for the past 3 years. This is ridiculous because I had a hospitalization where I was declared gravely disabled. How can the government be so blatantly dishonest?
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2012, 09:19:43 PM »
I am sorry you got denied Gabe.  I have reviewed your previous posts and the absolute best advice I can offer is to get an attorney.  They understand this process and will tell you if your case is strong enough for an appeal and the best way to go about it.

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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 07:28:46 AM »
Hello Gabe, I'm sorry to hear about your denial.  I agree with Marci, to hire an attorney.  For me, if you read my "story," it was the best thing I did for myself.  Please try to research the law firms out there that represent SS folks like us.  You'll want to hire a firm with a solid reputation and not an ambulance chaser.  Good luck to you!
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Age at Application: 50
Disability: fibro, rheumatic arthritis, depression, anxiety & panic disorder, PTSD, gout
Date Applied: August 2007
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied at initial level December 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: ALJ denial November 2010
Additional Info: Filed 2nd claim Sept 2010; awarded on Jan 2012!!!
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 09:02:20 AM »
Gabe, I am so sorry you are faced with this.  Keep fighting and KNOW that you've got the whole bunch of us behind you.
 group hug
 
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Life is a series of problems to be solved...Abe Lincoln
Most folks are as happy as they make up their minds to be...Abe Lincoln
Name: Jane
Location: Illinois
Age at Application: 59
Disability: Spinal Cord Injury, Fractured C4, Left-side partial paralysis, severe spasticity
Date Applied: ... 7/21/11>Re-Opened 2009 application
First Approval/Denial Date: APPROVED 11/3/11 ... BACKPAY from 11/08
Additional Info: Rec'd partial BackPay 1/3/12...Balance of 36 months rec'd 2/13/12
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 09:45:57 AM »
Gabe,

     You received some very good advice about hiring a disability lawyer. I do not think I would have been able to win my case without one. I am so sorry you got denied, don't give up, get yourself a lawyer, and I will be praying to the SS Gods for you  pray
The BEST of luck to you hun!
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"Laughter is a powerful tool against life's ample conundrums." -J.L. Eades
Name: Jen
Location: Northern Wisconsin
Age at Application: 32
Disability: Severe seronegative, erosive, deforming rhuematoid arthritis. Congenital hip dysplasia. Total hip replacement in both hips. Congentital os odontoid, C1-C2 (fractured neck vertebraes)
Date Applied: Initial application was March 9, 2010
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: I lost track!
Hearing Date: December 9, 2011(with disability lawyer)
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Approved December 30, 2011
Additional Info: Received approval letter (that I was found Disabled) on January 9, 2012 (age 34). First Federal SSI back pay February 2, 2012. Received 17 months of State Supplemental back pay February 17, 2012
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 03:40:50 PM »
So sorry to hear that Gabe. I'm sure it feels like a big blow. Try to go easy on yourself...and take a couple of days to regroup. We will be here to guide you through the next steps.
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Name: >;<
Location: CA
Age at Application: 37
Disability: Cervical & Lumbar DDD, Spinal Stenosis, Radiculopathy, Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety Disorder, Chronic PTSD
Date Applied: October 8, 2010
First Approval/Denial Date: Approved verbally March 15th, 2011. Approval letter dated April 5, 2011
Additional Info: 2 weeks in QR, Received backpay April 4th, 2011
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2012, 07:35:22 PM »
Hi Sorry to hear But  Please don't let them get away with it their only trying to get you Mad Frustrated so you will Quit 
    PLEASE Don't Let them Win
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Name: Richard A Wall
Location: Houston Texas
Age at Application: 50
Disability: CTS Nerve Damage Hands DDD DJS feet elbows knees back
Date Applied: 9-20-10 My Date SSA Date 10-11-10
First Approval/Denial Date: 1-29-11 Denial
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: 4-3-11 Denial
Hearing Date: 1-11-12
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Waiting
Additional Info: ALJ Daniel E Whitney
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 09:40:40 AM »
 Angry so sorry Gabe.....good luck in the next step to receive your benefits.
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Name: Darcel
Location: Ohio
Age at Application: 56
Disability: Rheumatoid Arthritis,Osteoarthritis,Osteopenia,Depression, Anxiety,and Insomnia
Date Applied: 02/03/2011
First Approval/Denial Date: waiting/went to Quaility Review 6/24/11 approval 7/1/2011
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 11:20:38 PM »
Reminds me of my denial. I had 3 heart attacks, 8 angioplasties and 2 hospitalizations with congestive heart failure in a 10 year period but my last denial was because "there was no evidence of a heart condition."

I know it's frustrating but good luck to you.
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Name: Billie
Location: Iowa
Age at Application: 54 at first application, 60 now
Disability: Congestive Heart Failure, Coronary Artery Disease, 8 angioplasties, arthritic degeneration of back and knees
Date Applied: First applied 2005, reapplied 1/25/2012
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied 1/06/2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied 3/31/2006
Hearing Date: No hearing
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Reapplied and Denied 11/16/2007
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 10:52:35 AM »
Gabe you poor thing! I think we all understand your disappointment and frustration. But with in addition to the nature of your condition, it must be very frightening to navigate this crazy system alone.  I absolutely agree with everyone to obtain a REPUTABLE LAW FIRM.  I cannot stress "LAW FIRM" enough.  Do not hire a advocate or representative because although they can legally represent you, they are not educated and licensed to practice law.  You need someone who is well versed in the law. 
About 15 years ago I worked for a social security disability law firm, so when my father needed disability at 61, I helped him and he got it first time around.  But, for myself, I had to navigate my own case through the ALJ Hearing level and finally won after 2.5 years.  I temporarily hired a non-lawyer before the hearing, but dismissed them rather quickly when I realized I had more knowledge in the area of law than they did.  I DO NOT recommend you represent yourself though.

Good Luck and stay in touch.  I wish I would have found this forum way earlier! What a support system for so many!!!
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If Life is a bowl of cherries, then what am I doing in the pits? ~Erma Bombeck
Name: Gina
Location: Houston, TX
Age at Application: 41
Disability: Cervical & Lumbar DDD, Spinal Stenosis, Radiculopathy, Peripheral Neuropathy, Depression, Anxiety Disorder, PTSD, Sleep Apnea
Date Applied: May 18, 2010
First Approval/Denial Date: 11/1/2010
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: 4/19/2011
Hearing Date: 1/10/2012
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: 1/10/2012 Bench Approval-No Attorney
Additional Info: 1/30/2012 (2/6/2012 rec'd) Notice of Decision; 2/15/2012 Back Pay rec'd; 2/21/2012 1st Notice of Award rec'd
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 07:45:35 AM »

I can only echo the idea that you need to speak with a good attorney or non-attorney representative.  I have not read your previous posts but can tell from this post that you are too emotionally involved to be able to handle the bureaucracy of SSA.  This is not a condemnation, just a fact.  Most people who face the SSA machine are too emotionally involved.  They cannot see the forest for the trees. 

SSA's determinations are not a matter of honesty/dishonesty, just an interpretation of their rules.  A good representative will be able to sort through what is important and what is not.

That said, if properly documented, Listing 12.03 is one of the easier Listings to meet.  But all of the provisions in a specific section must be met.   One hospitalization, no matter how grave the situation may have been, may not meet the durational requirements.  http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/12.00-MentalDisorders-Adult.htm#12_03 is suggested reading but be cautious about trying to interpret the Listing – let someone who is versed in SSA law do the interpretation.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 01:50:15 PM »
DF  Good-Post

Gabe , You have been given great advice, good luck in moving forward and do not give up. We all know how much of a struggle this can be, you are not alone Smiley
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"He that is thy friend indeed,He will help thee in thy need:If thou sorrow, he will weep;If thou wake, he cannot sleep:Thus of every grief in heart He with thee does bear a part.These are certain signs to know Faithful friend from flattering foe." William Shakespeare
Name: Fighting for hubby :)
Age at Application: 48/50 today January 28th!
Disability: Recently diagnosed with Renal-Artery Stenosis of left kidneySleep apnea, PAD, COPD,Malignant hypertension, elevated blood pressure. DJD of knee.
Date Applied: October 2010
First Approval/Denial Date: Feb 2011
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Applied Feb and waiting .....Denied April 22, 2011
Date Hearing Notice Received: December 2011
Hearing Date: Applied May 2011. Hearing April 6th 2012.
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Approval letter April 30th
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 09:18:02 PM »
sorry to hear of the denial...  i know-- the govt can be mean and cruel... hugs
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Location: middle Georgia
Age at Application: 50
Disability: widespread musculoskeletal disorders, multilevel spinal disorders including arthritis- herniated cervical disc & more, myofascial pain, piriformis syndrome, fibromyalgia, peripheral neuropathy, depression, anxiety, panic attacks
Date Applied: 2nd claim filed early 2010
First Approval/Denial Date: denied 5/2010
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: denied early 2011
Hearing Date: August 9 2011
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: VERBALLY APPROVED at hearing 8/9/11
Additional Info: 8/19/11 received cc of approval letter sent to senator by odar, 8/22/11 received fully favorable approval letter (& atty fee approval letter) from ODAR -onset date sept 3 2008. sept 7 attorney paid, received backpay on 9/14/11..award letter received 9/26/11.. 1st claim filed 2005 at fed dist court awaiting judge's decision
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2012, 09:23:51 PM »
Quote from: miapoppy on February 08, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
DF  Good-Post

Gabe , You have been given great advice, good luck in moving forward and do not give up. We all know how much of a struggle this can be, you are not alone Smiley


Miapoppy...I would love to take credit for level headed informative posts like DP's but I simply wouldn't be fooling anyone. Smiley

 Good-Post DP!
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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." --  Friedrich Nietzsche
Name: >;<
Location: CA
Age at Application: 37
Disability: Cervical & Lumbar DDD, Spinal Stenosis, Radiculopathy, Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety Disorder, Chronic PTSD
Date Applied: October 8, 2010
First Approval/Denial Date: Approved verbally March 15th, 2011. Approval letter dated April 5, 2011
Additional Info: 2 weeks in QR, Received backpay April 4th, 2011
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