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« on: February 13, 2017, 06:39:29 PM »

Hi Everyone,

I just got my 2nd short form CDR and I went from L 0008 to M 0121. I was just wondering has anyone else had this changed from one CDR to the next .  I'm on a 3 year dairy and nothing has got better for me it has actually gotten worse Sad  Also I noticed there is a big * (flower symbol) on the CDR at the top of it and one on the return envelope and this was not on my last CDR, Does this mean anything to have this symbol on it now *

Thanks for anyone's help with this!
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2017, 12:28:19 PM »

That's weird.  I just got my 1st CDR and have the same flower on my form and return envelope.  I wonder what that is?

Do you mind advising what you mean by: L 0008 to M 0121?  Are these letters & numbers on your CDR?  I have some under my social security number and am curious what they mean as well. 

I do remember reading a couple of threads months ago about numbering and lettering on forms and that they do mean something pertaining to your disability.

If someone can provide a link to those threads or give some guidance on this, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks!

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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2017, 12:36:44 PM »

I thought it was weird too. The L stands for Low chance of improvement and M stands for Medium chance of improvement. I was L0008  3 years ago when I got my 1st CDR and now they moved me to M0121 on my 2nd CDR. Are you a L or M or H for High? Maybe someone else will know what the (*) symbol is for and advise us Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2017, 01:08:13 PM »

I tried to figure out this profiling thing but it is a moot point.

We really can understand what they mean, but not how they are figured out. 

If it means anything last year I got a long form (1st review) and this year a short form SSA-455 OCR.

I was a 3 yr M 0054 profile...

Next year, if I get the short form I will compare the numbers, but doing so may just be a waste of time.

As far as the *, I think it is a symbol to cheer us up for Spring, like a flower....  JK lol

I have no clue what the flower means...  Slowly I am learning there are things I should ponder and things I should just leave them be.  Figuring out SSA is one that I am practicing on not doing, understanding their process, well I will never stop doing that.
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Name: Jon
Location: New Jersey (Not as bad as it sounds or is portrayed on T.V.)
Age at Application: 29
Disability: Bipolar I Disorder w/ Anxious Distress Severe, Obsessive Compulsivity, and PTSD
Date Applied: June 2009
First Approval/Denial Date: December 2010
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: n/a
Date OTR requested: n/a
Date OTR Approved/Sent to Hearing: n/a
Date Sent to VSU: n/a
Date VSU Approved/Sent to Hearing: n/a
Date Hearing Notice Received: n/a
Hearing Date: No Hearing
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: No ALJ
Date Award Letter Received: Jan 2011
Date Back Pay Received: Jan 2011
Date Dependent Benefits Received: First Payment Feb 2011
Additional Info: "Passed" on first try, attribute this to good doctors at the VA and an in depth Medical Record from Military Service as well as the Dept. of Veterans Affairs. I did hire an attorney, I probably did not need one but the peace of mind they offered was worth every cent paid -- Which I believe they deserved all of.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2017, 01:37:49 PM »

I have no clue what the asterisk * is for.

But you can find out more about what the scanline codes mean here:
https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0440502001

8. “Scanline” data

The scannable mailer includes barcoded information as well as three lines of scannable data on the front of the mailer, immediately below the telephone number and claim number. These scanlines contain substantial information:
Scanline 1 –
Field 1 – Social Security Number under which the mailer is being controlled
    
Field 2 – Beneficiary Identification Code (BIC) (Title II), or
    
Individual Recipient Identification code (ID) (Title XVI)
    
Field 3 – Year of beneficiary's birth
    
Field 4 – Year of most recent prior CDR
    
Field 5 – Primary and Secondary Diagnosis Codes
Scanline 2 –
Field 1 – Medical Diary Reason/Type
    
Field 2 – Concurrent Entitlement information
    
Field 3 – Profile Type (High, Medium, or Low)
    
Field 4 – Profiling SCORE (9999 is highest)
    
Field 5 – Report Period covered by the mailer
    
Field 6 – Scanning Form Identification Code (SFIC) (describes if it is a first or second request mailer, whether it is Title II, concurrent, or Title XVI-only, and whether the beneficiary prefers a non-English language notice).
    
Field 7 – Servicing Processing Center
    
Field 8 – Servicing State Agency/DDS code
    
Field 9 – Servicing Field Office (FO) Code
Scanline 3 –
Field 1 – Servicing FO City Name
    
Field 2 – Servicing FO State
    
Field 3 – Servicing FO ZIP CODE

We usually send the mailer form to beneficiaries who, based on statistical analysis called profiling, would have a low probability of medical improvement if we conducted a full CDR. We sometimes describe this group of beneficiaries simply as “LOWs.” In some instances, we may send mailers to other groups of beneficiaries. We refer to these groups as “HIGHs” or “MEDIUMs,” based on a profiling score that reflects the probability of a productive CDR or as a combined group, we may refer to them as “non-LOWs” or “not-LOWs”.
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Location: IL
Age at Application: 31
Disability: Depression, anxiety
Date Applied: 11/2013
First Approval/Denial Date: 03/2014
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: 11/2014
Hearing Date: 11/13/2015 (Friday the 13th!)
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: 01/15/2016 Fully Favorable (rec'd 01/21)
Date Award Letter Received: 02/17/2016 (rec'd 02/20)
Date Back Pay Received: 02/13/2016 (paper check)
Additional Info: 02/09/16 mySSA account updated with approval info. 02/22 rec'd medicare card in mail. Hired lawyer after reconsideration denial. Requested an in-person hearing.
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2017, 12:09:36 PM »

I have no clue what the asterisk * is for.

But you can find out more about what the scanline codes mean here:
https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0440502001

8. “Scanline” data

The scannable mailer includes barcoded information as well as three lines of scannable data on the front of the mailer, immediately below the telephone number and claim number. These scanlines contain substantial information:
Scanline 1 –
Field 1 – Social Security Number under which the mailer is being controlled
    
Field 2 – Beneficiary Identification Code (BIC) (Title II), or
    
Individual Recipient Identification code (ID) (Title XVI)
    
Field 3 – Year of beneficiary's birth
    
Field 4 – Year of most recent prior CDR
    
Field 5 – Primary and Secondary Diagnosis Codes
Scanline 2 –
Field 1 – Medical Diary Reason/Type
    
Field 2 – Concurrent Entitlement information
    
Field 3 – Profile Type (High, Medium, or Low)
    
Field 4 – Profiling SCORE (9999 is highest)
    
Field 5 – Report Period covered by the mailer
    
Field 6 – Scanning Form Identification Code (SFIC) (describes if it is a first or second request mailer, whether it is Title II, concurrent, or Title XVI-only, and whether the beneficiary prefers a non-English language notice).
    
Field 7 – Servicing Processing Center
    
Field 8 – Servicing State Agency/DDS code
    
Field 9 – Servicing Field Office (FO) Code
Scanline 3 –
Field 1 – Servicing FO City Name
    
Field 2 – Servicing FO State
    
Field 3 – Servicing FO ZIP CODE

We usually send the mailer form to beneficiaries who, based on statistical analysis called profiling, would have a low probability of medical improvement if we conducted a full CDR. We sometimes describe this group of beneficiaries simply as “LOWs.” In some instances, we may send mailers to other groups of beneficiaries. We refer to these groups as “HIGHs” or “MEDIUMs,” based on a profiling score that reflects the probability of a productive CDR or as a combined group, we may refer to them as “non-LOWs” or “not-LOWs”.



Thank you newdawn BUT I don't see these types of markings on my short form.  Under my social security number is this:

TOE 990     70181   P9 with a scannable code after that.

Other than that I don't see any other letters/number combos that would tell me what level they believe I am (Low chance of recovery/Medium, etc.) or any other info.  Where can I find this info OR am I missing something on this CDR?

Thanks so much!  I really wish the notification option was working to let me know of replies on threads Sad
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2017, 12:16:29 PM »

I have no clue what the asterisk * is for.

But you can find out more about what the scanline codes mean here:
https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0440502001

8. “Scanline” data

The scannable mailer includes barcoded information as well as three lines of scannable data on the front of the mailer, immediately below the telephone number and claim number. These scanlines contain substantial information:
Scanline 1 –
Field 1 – Social Security Number under which the mailer is being controlled
    
Field 2 – Beneficiary Identification Code (BIC) (Title II), or
    
Individual Recipient Identification code (ID) (Title XVI)
    
Field 3 – Year of beneficiary's birth
    
Field 4 – Year of most recent prior CDR
    
Field 5 – Primary and Secondary Diagnosis Codes
Scanline 2 –
Field 1 – Medical Diary Reason/Type
    
Field 2 – Concurrent Entitlement information
    
Field 3 – Profile Type (High, Medium, or Low)
    
Field 4 – Profiling SCORE (9999 is highest)
    
Field 5 – Report Period covered by the mailer
    
Field 6 – Scanning Form Identification Code (SFIC) (describes if it is a first or second request mailer, whether it is Title II, concurrent, or Title XVI-only, and whether the beneficiary prefers a non-English language notice).
    
Field 7 – Servicing Processing Center
    
Field 8 – Servicing State Agency/DDS code
    
Field 9 – Servicing Field Office (FO) Code
Scanline 3 –
Field 1 – Servicing FO City Name
    
Field 2 – Servicing FO State
    
Field 3 – Servicing FO ZIP CODE

We usually send the mailer form to beneficiaries who, based on statistical analysis called profiling, would have a low probability of medical improvement if we conducted a full CDR. We sometimes describe this group of beneficiaries simply as “LOWs.” In some instances, we may send mailers to other groups of beneficiaries. We refer to these groups as “HIGHs” or “MEDIUMs,” based on a profiling score that reflects the probability of a productive CDR or as a combined group, we may refer to them as “non-LOWs” or “not-LOWs”.


Sorry newdawn, that's what happens when you don't read a reply paragraph fully.  I see all the codes you mention here.  I am a M which is an utter shock to me.  I'll look through the codes more now.

Do those numbers/letters under my social security number on the right side of my 1st page mean anything?  If you know. 

Thanks again.
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2017, 11:17:42 PM »

I have already mailed my short form so I can't see if mine has any of this  Main02 Is there a way for us to see what form ssdi sent to us online in our account?
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Location: Middle Tennessee
Age at Application: 42/ Current Age 49
Disability: 3 Herniated Discs in Neck,3 Ruptured Discs in Low Back,Scoliosis,Severe Degenerative Disc Disease,Osteo in Left Hip,Plantars Faschitis in Left Foot,Spondlyosis,Heart Disease,Carpal Tunnel,Tendinitis,Fibermyalgia,Neuropothy,Depression,Anxiety,Sleep Apnea,Restless Leg Syndrome
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Date Award Letter Received: March 14th 2014
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2017, 11:37:50 PM »

I have already mailed my short form so I can't see if mine has any of this  Main02 Is there a way for us to see what form ssdi sent to us online in our account?

No, it doesn't show up in your online account.
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2017, 03:10:04 AM »

I got the long form, I didn't see any markings is that typical?
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Age at Application: 32
Disability: Bipolar 1- Mixed Episode, OCD??, Depressed, now found out Borderline Personality Disorder- What??
Date Applied: 2011
First Approval/Denial Date: 2011 Denied.
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: NOt sure think 2012 Denied.
Hearing Date: August 2013
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: September 10th 2013 Approved.
Date Award Letter Received: December 1st 2013
Date Back Pay Received: July 9th 2014
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2017, 11:52:46 AM »

Update: just got my letter in the mail stating they will not do a review at this time. We will contact you later if we need to review your case. So this took not a full month for their systems to scan my short form and send out a letter. Mailed back certified on 2/13 and got my letter in the mail 3/10. My worry about this can be set a side for 3 yrs, but there is enough other problems in my life to fill my mind with in the mean time. Hope everyone else has a quick return on their CDRs with good news!! Main01
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2017, 04:35:16 AM »

Thanks think i just got function reports for people to fill out
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Location: NJ
Age at Application: 32
Disability: Bipolar 1- Mixed Episode, OCD??, Depressed, now found out Borderline Personality Disorder- What??
Date Applied: 2011
First Approval/Denial Date: 2011 Denied.
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: NOt sure think 2012 Denied.
Hearing Date: August 2013
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: September 10th 2013 Approved.
Date Award Letter Received: December 1st 2013
Date Back Pay Received: July 9th 2014
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