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stellamartin123
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« on: March 04, 2017, 05:25:44 PM »

Does SSA determine whether you have a short or long form CDR before or after they look at the your medical records?
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2017, 07:55:39 PM »

If you have a short form CDR, SSA does not obtain your medical records.  It is just a 6 question form that does not ask the name/contact info of providers. 

Therefore, SSA knows you are having a long form CDR because they obtained medical records when you returned the long form with the contact info of the providers you have seen.
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Age at Application: 26 age of onset (but I did not apply until 28)
Date Applied: August 2011
First Approval/Denial Date: November 2011
Additional Info: I was fortunate to be approved on my initial application due to extensive medical records (12+ doctors) & documentation of unsuccessful work attempts even with significant accommodations
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2017, 11:21:14 PM »

 "Therefore, SSA knows you are having a long form CDR because they obtained medical records when you returned the long form with the contact info of the providers you have seen."  Reply #1.

This may be a first, but I must beg to differ with Helper.  

1.  Privacy laws require written authorization to obtain medical record and those authorizations are valid for a limited time only.  To obtain records, a new authorization must be obtained.  

2.  SSA does not obtain medical records.  Medical records are obtained by the state agency (usually a Disability Determination Service Office) authorized by the SSA to act in its behalf to provide the specific service of determination of disability cases provided to that state agency. If  

Therefore, the correct answer to the original question is that SSA does not look at any medical records unless, and until, the case is reviewed by an Administrative Law Judge.  The answer to the unasked question is; medical records play no role in determining if a case gets a review - either medical or non-medical.

I will not attempt to explain the in's and out's of how one case with the same diary date as another is picked at a specific time and another picked at a different time and yet a still different case is not picked at all.  DDS adjudicators were not concerned with how a case entered their caseload, only in how to properly adjudicate it when it arrived.  

Understandably the possibility of a Continuing Disability Review causes much angst.  The fact of the matter is that CDR's will come when they come and there is nothing worry can do to change that.  The solution to the torment is to continue to get the best medical help available with the hope that the disabling condition may be treated so medical improve may occur and the reader may resume a normal life.  Continued medical treatment will provide only two outcomes: either the condition will improve, or continued medical treatment will show that there has been no improvement.  (The exception to the need for ongoing treatment is those cases such as blindness and paralysis where improvement is not expected.)
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Additional Info: My Different Perspective comes from a lifetime of being near, working with and for those with disabilities, working for the Easter Seal Society, working for the Disability Determination Services (20+ years) and working as a case assistant to an attorney who, until he retired, worked on SSA disability cases exclusively and have attended approximately 185 Hearings. I have great empathy for the truly disabled and greater antipathy for those who try to game or scam the system. With my background, I quickly make distinctions between the two. I am ready to admit my error as soon as the evidence proves me wrong. Any posts I make are based on my experience, memory and current research. Anything, particularly opinions, I post should be verified by someone who has access to the entire case record and not just selected shorts offered by those seeking information, preferably by a competent attorney or non-attorney representative who thoroughly understands SSA law.

« Last Edit: March 05, 2017, 07:00:45 AM by Different Perspective »
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2017, 07:52:35 PM »

Different Perspective wrote:  I will not attempt to explain the in's and out's of how one case with the same diary date as another is picked at a specific time and another picked at a different time and yet a still different case is not picked at all.  DDS adjudicators were not concerned with how a case entered their caseload, only in how to properly adjudicate it when it arrived. 

Oh bummer, I would love to hear that explanation.
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Kat
Location: Colorado
Age at Application: 51
Date Applied: 11-22-11
First Approval/Denial Date: 3-22-12 Denial
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: 6-14-12 Approved
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2017, 08:33:37 PM »

"I would love to hear that explanation."  Reply #3

I would if could, but I can't so I ain't.
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Additional Info: My Different Perspective comes from a lifetime of being near, working with and for those with disabilities, working for the Easter Seal Society, working for the Disability Determination Services (20+ years) and working as a case assistant to an attorney who, until he retired, worked on SSA disability cases exclusively and have attended approximately 185 Hearings. I have great empathy for the truly disabled and greater antipathy for those who try to game or scam the system. With my background, I quickly make distinctions between the two. I am ready to admit my error as soon as the evidence proves me wrong. Any posts I make are based on my experience, memory and current research. Anything, particularly opinions, I post should be verified by someone who has access to the entire case record and not just selected shorts offered by those seeking information, preferably by a competent attorney or non-attorney representative who thoroughly understands SSA law.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2017, 07:11:55 PM »

Hi Stella,If you receive a short form from social security this means they are not expecting any medical improvement in your case...
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