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« on: January 26, 2012, 11:26:58 AM »

Going thru my CDR got notice today that on 2-20 I have a internist exam for my back. What does it curtail and should I be worried? Isn't the doctor they choose bias for SSA. Thanks
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Name: Aim
Location: Illinois
Age at Application: 34
Disability: Back, Leg and hand numbness
Date Applied: Aug 2004
First Approval/Denial Date: Oct 2004
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Feb 2005
Hearing Date: May 2006
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: June 2006
Additional Info: CDR Benefits Continued 3/15/12

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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 07:05:58 PM »

Hi Aim,

Here is a link with information on what happens at a CE :  http://ssa.gov/disability/professionals/greenbook/ce-adult.htm .  The first category is what an internist exam consists of. 

The majority of CE doctors do not work entirely for social security and all of them are held to the same standard as every other doctor.  So I do not think they have a bias but that is my opinion. 

If you are uncomfortable you can request your own doctor do the CE and as long as they are willing and qualified to do it social security must agree.
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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 11:59:04 AM »

Thanks SSDAdmin

Anyone willing to share there experience with a physical exam in CDR process and how it turned out for them?
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Location: Illinois
Age at Application: 34
Disability: Back, Leg and hand numbness
Date Applied: Aug 2004
First Approval/Denial Date: Oct 2004
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Feb 2005
Hearing Date: May 2006
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: June 2006
Additional Info: CDR Benefits Continued 3/15/12
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 12:56:08 PM »

I did not have a CDR but I did have a CE when I applied for disability.  I found the doctor to be quiet, distant and unconcerned.  He seemed to go through the motions but did not give me an indication of what he was thinking.  I did notice he watched me walk out of the room and that was about it.  It did not take long and he did the cursory stuff they are supposed to do.

I was surprised later to read he supported my claim 100% so you never know.

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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 01:20:35 PM »

Thanks SSDAdmin

I guess I am just suprised to be asked to see a SSA doctor on the CDR review. This makes no sense to me because I see my doctor monthly and have alot of evidence documented already seems a bit strange to me.
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Name: Aim
Location: Illinois
Age at Application: 34
Disability: Back, Leg and hand numbness
Date Applied: Aug 2004
First Approval/Denial Date: Oct 2004
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Feb 2005
Hearing Date: May 2006
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: June 2006
Additional Info: CDR Benefits Continued 3/15/12

« Last Edit: January 27, 2012, 01:37:44 PM by Aimster »
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 03:57:26 PM »

Aim, hopefully it is just a formality. It might be that your records, while frequent, don't specifically indicate the severity of your impairments...it will help you to read other member's posts in this section of the board...nut in the long run, each case is unique.

Best of luck to you!
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Name: >;<
Location: CA
Age at Application: 37
Disability: Complex PTSD, Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety Disorder
Date Applied: October 8, 2010
First Approval/Denial Date: Approved verbally March 15th, 2011. Approval letter dated April 5, 2011
Additional Info: 2 weeks in QR, Received backpay April 4th, 2011
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 07:13:22 PM »

You could always ask your doctor if he would be willing to do the CE exam for social security since you already have a relationship with him.

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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 07:19:12 PM »

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I asked him tonight at my appointment he told he had to go see him and I also had to take a urine test to prove I am taking my medication, this had NOTHING to do with the CDR process. My doctor told me everyone on disibility will be doing this by orders of ssdi/ssi program. He also told me they are targeting people 40 and under to get them off the rolls. I am very nervous about the whole CDR process now.
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Name: Aim
Location: Illinois
Age at Application: 34
Disability: Back, Leg and hand numbness
Date Applied: Aug 2004
First Approval/Denial Date: Oct 2004
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Feb 2005
Hearing Date: May 2006
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: June 2006
Additional Info: CDR Benefits Continued 3/15/12

« Last Edit: January 27, 2012, 07:28:56 PM by Aimster »
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 12:58:07 AM »

Hi Aim,
I'm confused...is this the first time your doctor has asked you to take a urine test to prove you are taking your medications? Or weas he saying that you had to go see the SSA doctor, and to expect a urine test?

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Name: >;<
Location: CA
Age at Application: 37
Disability: Complex PTSD, Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety Disorder
Date Applied: October 8, 2010
First Approval/Denial Date: Approved verbally March 15th, 2011. Approval letter dated April 5, 2011
Additional Info: 2 weeks in QR, Received backpay April 4th, 2011
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 06:14:56 AM »

I had to take one last night at my doctor's office. He told me it is not just me everyone on disibility is being required to take one.
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Location: Illinois
Age at Application: 34
Disability: Back, Leg and hand numbness
Date Applied: Aug 2004
First Approval/Denial Date: Oct 2004
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Feb 2005
Hearing Date: May 2006
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: June 2006
Additional Info: CDR Benefits Continued 3/15/12
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 08:52:18 AM »

Aimster:

Would you feel comfortable asking your doctor where he learned of that requirement. I have spent quite a bit of time searching, and can find nothing either SSDI/SSI or Medicare/Medicaid related that requires that. There have been proposals to require for TANF recipients, but even those have not gone through.

I did find a recent guideline issued by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services that recommended the required urine testing in managing opioid use. Is it possible your doctor required this to follow recommended guidelines, not because it is a requirement of SSDI/SSI beneficiaries?

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Name: Pati
Location: East Tennessee
Age at Application: 53
Disability: Small Fiber & Autonomic Neuropathy; Sjogren's Syndrome; DJD
Date Applied: 02/19/2009
First Approval/Denial Date: Approved 10/26/2009
Date Award Letter Received: 11/17/2009
Date Back Pay Received: 10/25/2009
Additional Info: Assigned to DQB on 10/5/09. Approved.
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 02:41:26 PM »

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He had a stack of paper's for people in his office and said everyone would be doing this it was new and the reason why was because they want to see If people are taking there medicine or selling it he told me. I told him this was stupid because I take vicadin when I need it for pain and had not took it for 3 days so it may or may not show up on a urine test. I told him it proved nothing and he agreed with me.
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Age at Application: 34
Disability: Back, Leg and hand numbness
Date Applied: Aug 2004
First Approval/Denial Date: Oct 2004
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Feb 2005
Hearing Date: May 2006
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: June 2006
Additional Info: CDR Benefits Continued 3/15/12
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 05:35:08 PM »

Hmmm. That's exactly the scenario I was wondering about. The urine test really doesn't prove anything. Not everyone is taking opiates every 6 hours all day every single day. Sure it may be prescribed like that, but mostly it is PRN, AS NEEDED, for pain.

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Age at Application: 37
Disability: Complex PTSD, Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety Disorder
Date Applied: October 8, 2010
First Approval/Denial Date: Approved verbally March 15th, 2011. Approval letter dated April 5, 2011
Additional Info: 2 weeks in QR, Received backpay April 4th, 2011
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 08:19:18 PM »

This is a required test for anyone getting pain medication dispensed in Florida.  They also have set up a data base so other doctors and pharmacists do not "double" up prescriptions.

That said, I do recall reading somewhere (of course I can't find it now) that social security can request pharmacy records and blood work to prove you are both filling and taking your medications as prescribed.  However it is not required of every claimant.  Anyone remember where that is? 
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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2012, 08:29:31 PM »

This is a required test for anyone getting pain medication dispensed in Florida.  They also have set up a data base so other doctors and pharmacists do not "double" up prescriptions.

That said, I do recall reading somewhere (of course I can't find it now) that social security can request pharmacy records and blood work to prove you are both filling and taking your medications as prescribed.  However it is not required of every claimant.  Anyone remember where that is? 
Marci


This is being done in Illinois.
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Name: Aim
Location: Illinois
Age at Application: 34
Disability: Back, Leg and hand numbness
Date Applied: Aug 2004
First Approval/Denial Date: Oct 2004
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Feb 2005
Hearing Date: May 2006
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: June 2006
Additional Info: CDR Benefits Continued 3/15/12
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