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« on: December 01, 2012, 08:01:15 PM »

If my psychologist checks all the boxes that says I would be "Markedly Limited" is that good or bad?
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depressed1979
Name: Sherry
Location: Michigan
Age at Application: 33
Disability: Anxiety, Depression, Panic Attacks, Bipolar, ADHD, Verbal Learning Disorder, Insomnia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Date Applied: 09/24/2012
First Approval/Denial Date: 04/12/2013 - Approved SSI - Denied SSDI
Additional Info: I was Approved on my initial application. It took 7 months But 2 of those months was my doctors fault for taking 2 months getting my CE exam report to my case worker with the DDS office
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2012, 08:03:25 PM »

It would help your case , yes.
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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2012, 08:14:54 PM »

I have seen this psychologist in the past but it was couple years ago But I just started seeing him again & he will back me up for SSA & fill the Mental RFC form. Is any of this even going to help since I just started seeing him again? I have been in therapy in the past as well at another psychology place but that was couple years ago too. What are the chances I still have to see a CE doctor even if I have a Mental RFC form filled out by a psch doctor & I'm seeing him again or even get DENIED my 1st time around. I have current records with my illness's but those are through my family doctor. He backs me up too but I already heard he doesn't carry any weight on my side because he's not a psch doctor.
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depressed1979
Name: Sherry
Location: Michigan
Age at Application: 33
Disability: Anxiety, Depression, Panic Attacks, Bipolar, ADHD, Verbal Learning Disorder, Insomnia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Date Applied: 09/24/2012
First Approval/Denial Date: 04/12/2013 - Approved SSI - Denied SSDI
Additional Info: I was Approved on my initial application. It took 7 months But 2 of those months was my doctors fault for taking 2 months getting my CE exam report to my case worker with the DDS office
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 09:19:06 AM »

It would definitely be better if you had a history with the psych doctor.  The first question will be, how did you go years without seeing one?  Is your condition that bad if you could go without treatment.  This is where your family doctor comes in since you have seen him continually. 
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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 10:46:10 AM »

I went years because I honestly don't like psch doctors. I dont know why, I just dont Sad I feel more comfortable going to my family doctor. So I have seen my family doctor every 3 months but I know the downfall is, he doesn't hold any wait on my side Sad Plus I have agoraphobia so it makes it extremely hard to go anywhere especially a doctors office to talk about it..
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depressed1979
Name: Sherry
Location: Michigan
Age at Application: 33
Disability: Anxiety, Depression, Panic Attacks, Bipolar, ADHD, Verbal Learning Disorder, Insomnia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Date Applied: 09/24/2012
First Approval/Denial Date: 04/12/2013 - Approved SSI - Denied SSDI
Additional Info: I was Approved on my initial application. It took 7 months But 2 of those months was my doctors fault for taking 2 months getting my CE exam report to my case worker with the DDS office
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2012, 10:47:34 AM »

And I have never went without treatment, I just got treatment from my family doctor. He has tried me on several medicines but again I hear he holds no weight on my end.
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Name: Sherry
Location: Michigan
Age at Application: 33
Disability: Anxiety, Depression, Panic Attacks, Bipolar, ADHD, Verbal Learning Disorder, Insomnia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Date Applied: 09/24/2012
First Approval/Denial Date: 04/12/2013 - Approved SSI - Denied SSDI
Additional Info: I was Approved on my initial application. It took 7 months But 2 of those months was my doctors fault for taking 2 months getting my CE exam report to my case worker with the DDS office
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 12:27:37 PM »

Dont stress youself out too much over this Sherry, I would think if your family doctor has a good charted history of your illness and and a good track record of your meds and that despite all the treatment you are not better that should  hold some weight.
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Location: Ky
Age at Application: 48 Gonna hit the big 50 in April
Disability: Bipolar 2, A.D.D. Fibromyalgia, Generalized Anxiety
Date Applied: Jan. 2011
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied June 2011
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied Aug. 18, 2011
Date Hearing Notice Received: June 2012
Hearing Date: Sept. 26, 2012
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Nov. 2, 2012 UNFAVORABLE letter from ODAR
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2012, 07:47:48 PM »

Yes and no. I wish I had my color coded chart in front of me to help explain this a little better. But on the MRFC I know that there are sections that cover "unskilled" and others that cover "skilled." Skilled is the sections like following a complex set of questions and directions. Now if you get a marked in these areas then it will only rule out skilled work ( work that takes 6 months or more to learn how to do). SSA will send you back to unskilled work. How it works is that you can't send someone who is only capable of unskilled work back to skilled work. So if the MRFC limits you to only unskilled work then you will probably be a denial. If it is a "less than unskilled" MRFC then most likely you are looking at an allowance.

And each allowance is different, each being assigned a different diary date. Some cases will not be revisited for 7 years, others 3 years, and others 1 year. Just depends on your MDI.
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2012, 08:36:26 PM »

My psch doctor that filled the MRFC form out checked all the boxes that stated I'm "Markedly Limited" No sections actually said unskilled or skilled. Not sure what Markedly limited means but I think it's a good sign..
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Name: Sherry
Location: Michigan
Age at Application: 33
Disability: Anxiety, Depression, Panic Attacks, Bipolar, ADHD, Verbal Learning Disorder, Insomnia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Date Applied: 09/24/2012
First Approval/Denial Date: 04/12/2013 - Approved SSI - Denied SSDI
Additional Info: I was Approved on my initial application. It took 7 months But 2 of those months was my doctors fault for taking 2 months getting my CE exam report to my case worker with the DDS office
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2012, 08:42:31 PM »

Markedly limited basically means there is a strong, notable problem in that specific area. The actual DDS/SSA definition is "more than moderate, but less than severe", which is as vague as it sounds.
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Name: Lance
Location: Los Angeles
Age at Application: 46
Disability: Severe Depression, Anxiety, PTSD
Date Applied: June 1, 2012
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied August 31, 2012
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: No Recon in my region of CA
Hearing Date: January 25, 2013
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 20, 2013
Additional Info: Appeals Counci denied Apri 24, 2013l
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2012, 08:52:09 PM »

hmm ok so I he would fill it out for me again which he probably wouldnt but if he does, Markedly limited is Not going to help me get approved? I thought he agreed with how I am everyday in those areas & he checked markedly limited so I thought that was a good thing? So whats the best way for the doctor to have checked then?

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Name: Sherry
Location: Michigan
Age at Application: 33
Disability: Anxiety, Depression, Panic Attacks, Bipolar, ADHD, Verbal Learning Disorder, Insomnia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Date Applied: 09/24/2012
First Approval/Denial Date: 04/12/2013 - Approved SSI - Denied SSDI
Additional Info: I was Approved on my initial application. It took 7 months But 2 of those months was my doctors fault for taking 2 months getting my CE exam report to my case worker with the DDS office
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2012, 08:53:36 PM »

the form is hard to understand when looking at it anyway, I have no clue what these limited boxes mean... Which one of the Limited boxes means your severe?
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Name: Sherry
Location: Michigan
Age at Application: 33
Disability: Anxiety, Depression, Panic Attacks, Bipolar, ADHD, Verbal Learning Disorder, Insomnia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Date Applied: 09/24/2012
First Approval/Denial Date: 04/12/2013 - Approved SSI - Denied SSDI
Additional Info: I was Approved on my initial application. It took 7 months But 2 of those months was my doctors fault for taking 2 months getting my CE exam report to my case worker with the DDS office
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2012, 10:43:40 PM »

Markedly limited is the most severe..I am pretty certain.
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Name: Marci
Location: Florida
Age at Application: 35
Disability: Arthritis, Degenerative Disc, Migraines, Foot Injury
Date Applied: September 2005
First Approval/Denial Date: Denied February 2006
Reconsideration Approval/Denial Date: Denied October 2006
Date Hearing Notice Received: October 2008 two weeks before hearing
Hearing Date: October 2008
ALJ Approval/Denial Date: Letter Received December 2008
Date Award Letter Received: January 2009
Date Back Pay Received: February 2009
Additional Info: Approved at hearing, no Attorney
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2012, 10:51:17 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2012, 10:55:21 PM »

If my psychologist checks all the boxes that says I would be "Markedly Limited" is that good or bad?

Probably bad.  Marked limitations are the most severe but if all boxes are checked that way, the SSA adjudicator will probably think the psychologist has no idea what SSA means by Marked and give very little credibility to his/her assessment.
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