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Author Topic: Exhibit 17F & 18F?  (Read 814 times)

stage4survivor

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Exhibit 17F & 18F?
« on: January 06, 2017, 01:20:22 PM »
I had my ALJ hearing early December 2016 and received a letter couple days ago citing further evidence found under Ex17F & 18F but, have no clue what this implies, positive or negative?
I was told this ALJ will attempt to "do the right thing" and has a 70% approval rate.
Any help appreciated

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Re: Exhibit 17F & 18F?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2017, 01:58:01 PM »
That's a little vague. The exhibits correspond to 17F and 18F in your case file, but what is the context of the letter?
Los Angeles, CA

Short Version: Filed in June 2012 at age 46; major depression + general anxiety. Denied all the way through. Fed district court remanded, 2nd hearing delayed twice (11 months total delay). Bench approval at remand hearing in March 2017. Took six months to receive most of back pay.

stage4survivor

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Re: Exhibit 17F & 18F?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2017, 02:18:30 PM »
That's all I know.
They referenced 17F & 18F but, I have no clue what these exhibits pertain to, no additional info in this letter.
I've tried googling without luck & my attorney is out of town.

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Re: Exhibit 17F & 18F?
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2017, 04:29:08 PM »
When your lawyer and the judge look at the evidence in your electronic file, each group of evidence from a doctor or hospital is labelled as an exhibit. The exhibit number is of no use to you unless you have access to your electronic case file as the judge and your lawyer do. I assume the reason there are labelled exhibits is to organize your case file so that when the judge or lawyer want to reference a certain record, everyone is looking at the same page of the same record.

I mention this because I just got my case file on a CD yesterday and when I open the index file, it clearly lists all the exhibits and a brief description of the contents of the exhibit/evidence and the dates the evidence covers. So for example, in my file, there are listed exhibits 1F-13F under "Medical Records". These "F" exhibits are all medical evidence. They appear to be grouped together the way they were received. For instance, Exhibit 1F in my file is "Progress Notes" from my psychiatrist covering a period from 04/2012-12/2013. When I click on the link in the index it brings up the document which is 27 pages of notes from my psychiatrist, likely faxed in one group to SSA. There are other "F" exhibits from my psychiatrist but she probably faxed those in on different dates.

So that's the "F" exhibits. There are also "E" exhibits which are things that I completed like the Adult Function Report and Work History Report. There's one "D" exhibit which is my original application for disability, some "B" exhibits like my request for a hearing form and representative fee agreement, and "A" exhibits such as the DDE (Disability Determination Explanation) from my initial and reconsideration denials.

So, long story short, I have no idea what it means that the judge is citing further evidence from your "F" exhibits. But I take it to mean the judge has found further evidence to support his/her decision (whether favorable or unfavorable) in two medical evidence exhibits (groups of medical records that are in evidence).

However, even if you had access to your electronic file to know which pieces of medical evidence the exhibits correspond to, it may not give you much more of a clue because one exhibit could be 30+ pages of medical records covering many months and you don't know where in that exhibit the judge has cherry-picked something. Some exhibits might only be a few pages, but some are longer.

Basically, I think there's nothing you can do but wait to ask your lawyer when they're back in town to see if they think it's indicative of anything, positive or negative.

stage4survivor

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Re: Exhibit 17F & 18F?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2017, 09:45:22 AM »
Many thanks for your thorough explanation. My attorney initially suggested any vision deficit greater than 20% should be an automatic approval since it impairs my ability to read.
Guess I have to wait

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Re: Exhibit 17F & 18F?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2017, 07:30:47 PM »
"...received a letter couple days ago citing further evidence found under Ex17F & 18F..."  Original post this thread.

Lance and Dawn have pretty well laid it out.  Surely the ALJ cited something about the [/i]"further evidence found under Ex 17F & 18F"[/i].  What, exactly, did the ALJ say about the two exhibits? 

"My attorney initially suggested any vision deficit greater than 20% should be an automatic approval since it impairs my ability to read."  Reply #4.

Interesting statement.  On what basis, what Program Operations Manual System or other official ruling from SSA did s/he suggest proved impaired ability to read was an automatic approval?  What does a deficit greater than 20% mean?  Visual acuity?  Visual efficiency?  Field of vision?

Your, and your attorney's responses will certainly be welcomed

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Re: Exhibit 17F & 18F?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2017, 07:36:53 PM »
The Listing requirement is 20/200 in the better eye with the use of a corrective lens.

 

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